Janice Leatherwood

Born in Pittsburgh in 1927, Janice tells about her childhood and what she liked to do growing up.

Transcription

LAUREN KING: This is Lauren King here with Janice, um, Leatherwood. Today is Thursday March 31, 2011.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: I can’t believe the month is already over.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I know it.

[LAUGHING]

LAUREN KING: And thank you for having me here in your home at Carroll Lutheran Village.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: And I’m gonna just start with the basic question of when and where you were born.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: OK. I have to stop and think.

LAUREN KING: That’s OK. You take your time.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Well, I lived in Connellsville.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think I was born in Pittsburgh.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And then my father moved to Connellsville.

LAUREN KING: What– do you remember what year you were born?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: 1927.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. OK. All right. Very good. So then you were living in /

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: OK. Good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, went to school there and, uh–

LAUREN KING: OK. Can you tell me a little bit about your childhood, like what you liked to do when you were growing up for fun and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Well, I was a, uh, person that liked to play and rough it up with the boys, you know.

LAUREN KING: Like a tomboy?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I wasn’t– I was a tomboy more or less.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I didn’t particularly have dolls or anything like that–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –you know. And, uh, not that I didn’t have some, but, um, I was a tomboy and I liked to, uh, kick around and– and play.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s good. That was a very healthy way to–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: –to pass the time– be outside and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I never–

LAUREN KING: –exercise.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. I never– I never had any problems or anything. But, uh–

LAUREN KING: That’s good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I liked to be active.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. That’s very good. And did you have any– did you have any siblings?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I had a younger brother. He was seven years younger than I was.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: OK. All right. And how about your schooling? Where did you go to school?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: OK. I went to, uh, Maryville College–

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –in Tennessee. It was a Presbyterian college. We were Presbyterians.

LAUREN KING: Did– did you have a lot of– of, um, growing up? Was there a lot of, um, faith in your house growing up?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Oh, yes.

LAUREN KING: A lot of religious–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: –background.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, uh, it wasn’t that it was a– there was no pressure there, you know.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It just came naturally.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It just came naturally.

LAUREN KING: OK. So that was an important part of your life from– from when you were growing up–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Growing up. Yes. And– and– and, uh, I can’t think much other than– I did most anything that I had an interest in, you know.

LAUREN KING: That’s very good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And so, uh, there was no pressure put on me–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: whatsoever. And, uh, that’s about– that’s about all. I didn’t have any–

LAUREN KING: Well, back in–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I wasn’t always looking for something to get out of or not do, you know.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It just– I just did things that came naturally to me.

LAUREN KING: Growing up, did your parents– were they supportive in your wanting to be outside and play? Or did you have, like, certain chores and things you had to do within the house?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: There were some, but I wasn’t overwhelmed with them. I could get them done. And, uh, I was pretty much a free person.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s very good. Um, what did you major in when you went to college in Tennessee?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That was so long ago. I don’t hardly remember. I don’t know.

LAUREN KING: Well–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I can’t think. I can’t think right now what–

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –what it was, but it–

LAUREN KING: Well, I know I had the pleasure of speaking to you before. And if I remember correctly, you had told me how you, um, majored in physical education.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Oh, physical education. Yes. I was– I– I always had that. I– I enjoyed that, I would say, outside and–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –that type rather than, uh– I don’t know what you– I don’t know what you call it, but anyhow.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. So you weren’t– you weren’t like an academic, you know, inside–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: No. No. No. Not that I didn’t do some of that.

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That was– that was involved.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, as far as I can say, a well-rounded education. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s very good. Did you find– if you remember when you were in college if you had, um, like your– your normal studies, like your– your maths and your Englishes and those type of classes versus your– your physical education classes, did you have–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I imagine I did.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And I probably went through them, but–

LAUREN KING: Sure.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –I just don’t–

LAUREN KING: Remember.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I just don’t have that– that’s been an awful long–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –time ago.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Well, it sounds like you took something that you were really interested in, that you enjoyed growing up– the outdoors–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: –and took that with you as you grew into your early adulthood.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And activities that– that way.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: All right. Um, well, then once you graduated from college–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Do you remember what year that was?

[LAUGHING]

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Gee-whiz. Right now I can’t say what it was.

LAUREN KING: That’s fine. That’s perfectly fine.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I can’t say what it was.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: My husband probably could tell me better than what I can remember.

LAUREN KING: That’s OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But I didn’t fail anything–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –or, you know. I just went through the normal–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –courses and– and things and, uh–

LAUREN KING: Do you–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –got involved what I wanted to do.

LAUREN KING: Right. Do you remember how– could you tell me a little bit about how and when you met your husband?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: My memory has gone.

LAUREN KING: That’s perfectly fine. That’s perfectly–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: My memory has gone.

LAUREN KING: –fine.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, uh–

LAUREN KING: Well, let me–let me ask you this. Are you OK with– with us doing this? Are you feeling comfortable with–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: –with this?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It–

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It doesn’t bother me.

LAUREN KING: I just wanted to make sure.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It’s just that I don’t have memory times.

LAUREN KING: That’s unders– I understand.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, I’ve never regretted a time that I have known him.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Right. Right. I do vaguely remember– in us speaking before– you talked about a card game.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Pinochle.

LAUREN KING: Playing cards–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: –and meeting him, um, in– at his house, where he– they boarded teachers.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And there was a game then. But, um, a few of us played Pinochle.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And we enjoyed that. And he played Pinochle.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, I can’t think what the other game that the other folks played, but, uh–

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s OK. But you remember enjoying playing Pinochle?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: Very good. That’s– I’ve never played that game.

[LAUGHING]

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Is that right?

LAUREN KING: Yup. I’ve never played. I’ve heard of it. I’ve never played it.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Never played it.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I– I could play Bridge somewhat.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, uh, Pinochle seemed to come along. And I think my grandfather played it and, you know, my–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –parents played it, but they played Bridge and other games too, but–

LAUREN KING: Um, do you remember– if I may step back a little bit to when you were growing up– and I know you did all the outdoorsy things. Did you also play– did your parents– did you play games with your parents? Like you said, you played cards and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Oh, I imagine so because we had games, you know, that we could take out and play.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh– but I was an outside person–

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –you know, a good bit of the time.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And I played with both boys and girls, you know.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Very good. Very good. Do you, um– when did you come to Carroll County? Or about how long do you think you’ve been in Carroll County?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: When did I come to Carroll County? I don’t know whether it was around ’51 or something like that.

LAUREN KING: OK. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think it was January of ’51 or something like that.

LAUREN KING: OK. So you’ve been in Carroll County a long time.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: You like the area?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Oh, yes. I’ve liked the people around.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I liked the kids that I worked with and–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and that. Yes. Uh-huh. I had no problems with that whatsoever. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: And then do you have any children?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. We had a girl, Peggy.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. So she was raised here in Carroll County in this general area?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I– I think so.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think she was. Yes. Yes.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Because she did a lot of things with my husband’s mother.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And things like that.

LAUREN KING: That’s good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And when I went back into teaching, then she stayed with Grandmother Leatherwood–

LAUREN KING: Yeah, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and, uh– and did those things. Yes.

LAUREN KING: So how– do you remember how old she was when you went back to work then?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: No, I don’t remember.

LAUREN KING: OK. OK. I believe she was about–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: There she is up on–

LAUREN KING: –seven.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –the wall. That’s my daughter over this side and in the middle is, uh, my granddaughter.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And then above is the granddaughter when she graduated from college.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Well, you have a lovely family.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And it’s, uh, her father over there. Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: Well, they’re all very lovely.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yep.

LAUREN KING: Very lovely. Um. And do they– do they live nearby? Do they–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes, they do.

LAUREN KING: That’s good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think up in Pennsylvania, Leslie is.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. OK. OK. That’s good. Well, it’s nice that you have them close to you.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That’s it.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Now, they’re not– I mean, they do their own thing, you know, but, I mean, we get together from time to time.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: That’s very important. That’s very important.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Um. So you did go back to work when–when your daughter was about seven.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. She was in second grade.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: And then you went back into physical education?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: You were working–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mostly in physical education. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Girls physical education.

LAUREN KING: OK. And what about– what was the name of the school that you worked for?

[LAUGHING]

You remember that?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I’m in– I’m in Maryland now here here, aren’t I? Somewhere in Maryland.

LAUREN KING: OK. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I don’t know. Those things–

LAUREN KING: That’s fine.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –fade from my mind.

LAUREN KING: So you were working in Maryland.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: That’s OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Ellis could tell you better than what I can.

LAUREN KING: And did you find– did you find that you enjoyed working in that area as much as you had–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Oh, yes.

LAUREN KING: –prior to–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: Having– you know, getting married and having–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: The kids were good. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: The kids were good. Uh, I had a lot of– I–I enjoyed them. I had a lot of fun with them.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Do you–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh, we went, uh, bike riding on Saturdays or something like that–

LAUREN KING: Oh! Well, that’s nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –you know. And, uh, We– we did– I enjoyed the kids very much.

LAUREN KING: That’s good. Do you– is there any that you maybe still keep in touch with or– or maybe run into once in awhile?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Well, I probably run into them.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, um, it’s not that you have them by your side. They did their thing. and–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and went their way and–

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and that was– that was it. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Well, it sounds like being– being a teacher of any sort, especially physical education, which we know is so important for anybody, that you really– you must’ve touched a lot of– a lot of people’s lives. That was a–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. Mm-hm. I did teach a– another subject along with it–

LAUREN KING: Did you?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –because there was one time that I had to get dressed to go into a classroom. Then when I was in phys ed I went back into my, um, uh, shorts and stuff, you know.

LAUREN KING: Oh, so like–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: So I did change one– back and forth.

LAUREN KING: So, like, in one particular day, you might have to dress one way for your one class and then change–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Change.

LAUREN KING: –to get ready for your physical education–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Education class. Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I did that.

LAUREN KING: That kept you busy.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Now did you– so did you like the physical education aspect better than the other class that you taught?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I was more geared to that.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I didn’t mind teaching the class.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And right now I can’t think what the class was.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It’s been too long ago.

[LAUGHING]

LAUREN KING: That’s fine. That’s fine. Um, well, let’s see. How about, um– I see, you know, you have a beautiful home here at Carroll Lutheran Village.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: And I believe you’ve been here about 13 years or so.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Something like that. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. 13.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. And, um, what do you like to do here? What do you like to do? Or what do you do?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We used to be involved in more things when we first came.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And then we dropped out of that, you know–

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –to give ourself a little more time for ourselves or something like that–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –um, because we had worked with students or people all our lives, so–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –then we kind of, uh– not that we didn’t like it or anything, it’s just that–

LAUREN KING: Well, you just wanted a change.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It’s a change. That’s right.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Well, when you– when you finished teaching, when you retired–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: –from teaching, what– what was it that you liked to do with your time then? You had a pastime that you worked on.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: OK. When our daughter got in school–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and was established, you know, going because she always had her grandparents close by, you know, that she would go. Then we would take trips around to different places in the United States. We never traveled abroad. We stayed within the country, you know.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. And how did you travel? Was it hotels? Did you–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: No. We went by car, camped a lot.

LAUREN KING: Camping. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. So you camped in a lot of the states.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Very good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Meet a lot of people that way.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: A lot of different people, a lot of different areas–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Right.

LAUREN KING: –different ways of life–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: –and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: –and so forth. Mm-hm. So that’s something you and your husband enjoyed doing together once you were retired.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That’s right. That’s it. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: OK. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And we both retired just about the same time, I think it was.

LAUREN KING: Well, that was nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Maybe I retired one year before he did.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, uh, we both retired. So we had nothing. Then after she got started in school or got started here or that, we would go on vacations. But we always kept in touch. Sundays were the times in which we would call back or something.

LAUREN KING: With your daughter? You keep in touch–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: –with your daughter on Sundays.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We only had the one daughter.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. She’s right up there on the– on the, uh, wall there.

LAUREN KING: Yeah. She’s a beautiful– beautiful–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: –woman. Yes.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah, she is.

LAUREN KING: Yes, she is.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: She has a lot on the ball.

LAUREN KING: Yeah? Well, I’m sure she got that from you all.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Well, takes after her father more than me.

LAUREN KING: Aw.

[LAUGHING]

LAUREN KING: Um–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But we did. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Do you– did you have any maybe special or favorite trip you remember taking? Or did you just like it all pretty much the same?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We enjoyed it all.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. We enjoyed wherever. We always met people that were friendly. And– and, uh, we talk– right now I can’t remember a single person. Or we didn’t keep up with them, you know.

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Or they didn’t keep up with us or something like that.

LAUREN KING: But you enjoyed them when you were there.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But we enjoyed it when we were there. Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Very good. Very good. And how about– how about when you weren’t traveling and camping, um– something you guys liked to do? I think you both worked together a little bit on– or a lot, I should say– on something here at the house.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Like gardening or changing.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We always had a garden.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I canned.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, we always did things together.

LAUREN KING: That’s nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: That’s very nice. Um, I do remember you expressing interest in furniture.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. I did redo furniture.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I– I did these– all these chairs. These two on the end belonged to my parents. And those two and the one you’re sitting in belonged to Ellis’ parents.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And when I got that chair, you could never see that design. There were so many coats of paint. Every spring they put a new coat of paint on the chair into the bedrooms–

LAUREN KING: Uh-huh.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –or some– some place. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Freshening it up. Freshening it up.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Freshening up.

LAUREN KING: Wow. You–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But I took all the paint off of– of, uh, those two chairs.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And these weren’t– weren’t that way, you know. And so– but I refinished them. These used to have a, uh, soft pillow seat in them when my parents had them. And I couldn’t do that. So I– so I– I could cane, so I put the cane seats in them.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Well, very nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, um, we sit in them. I don’t think we ever used to put a little slight pillow with them.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I don’t think so.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Well, it’s very special to have furniture from– from all those years ago and from both sides of the family. and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: I mean, that’s nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Both families. Except the table, we bought–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –to go with the– to go with the chairs.

LAUREN KING: Well, say, it’s a beautiful match to the chairs.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It– they really–

LAUREN KING: It looks like they belong together.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh– but there’s a different– these are a little darker and those are just a little bit–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –lighter in, uh, that. Ellis made that, uh, desk that he has in high school–

LAUREN KING: Oh, wow!

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –in– in– what do they call it?

LAUREN KING: Like shop class? Something like that?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Maybe shop or something–

LAUREN KING: Woodworking?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Something like that. But he, uh, made that– that whole desk–

LAUREN KING: That’s very nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –in high school.

LAUREN KING: He did a wonderful job.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Wonderful. Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, uh, we enjoyed doing things like that.

LAUREN KING: That’s good that you all were able to spend all that quality time together since you retired. That– that’s– that’s good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Right.

LAUREN KING: That’s very good. Now being in Carroll County for as long as you have, I know you– you would have seen a lot of changes just in the area, the growing of, you know, the homes, the businesses, um–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. We were in the Mount Airy area.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, um, we were close to, uh, oh, gosh.

LAUREN KING: Frederick, I believe.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. We were close to Frederick, but we were also close to Damascus.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK. That’s a nice area. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. They were– they were both close districts to us.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, we– I– I enjoyed it. He was always from around here.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, I– I wasn’t so far away from my grandparents– two grandparents– in Cecil County, Maryland.

LAUREN KING: OK. That’s nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: So every once in awhile we would get a chance to go in, you know, to see them. Now my parents still were in Connellsville.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: [INAUDIBLE] my father first worked outside of Pittsburgh and then was moved to, uh, Connellsville– West Penn Power company.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, he, um– he went to Delaware.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: The University of Delaware.

LAUREN KING: Now you said your grandparents were– were close by in Cecil County. Was that–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Were they still alive when– when your daughter was born? Did she get to spend time with her–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. She– she– she got to know them.

LAUREN KING: Her great-grandparents then.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Great grandparents. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: Oh. That’s very special too. That doesn’t always happen.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That really is–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: uh, because I knew my great-grandparents also. It was amazing.

LAUREN KING: That is all the generations together. That’s nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. That’s special.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: That’s very special. And you have a lovely home. I see– I mean, you have a lovely view. I– considering how much Carroll County has– has grown and changed, you seem to have the best of both because from– from here I can see the lovely, like, landscape and the land.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: The land.

LAUREN KING: But then I can also look out over here and see, you know, the– more buildup of homes and the tower to the college and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: College. Yes.

LAUREN KING: Yeah.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: You can look up through there.

LAUREN KING: So you have– you kind of have the best of both as far as your scenery, don’t you?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We really do.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: We’re right up on the tip-top of the hill.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, I have always like this area very much.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It has been it’s a very pretty area. The people are very friendly. And, uh– and I have– I have enjoyed it. And it was close to my grandparents, you know, I could go in there. Because I had my grandparents a good long time–

LAUREN KING: Yeah.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –you know.

LAUREN KING: That’s very nice.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And that’s unusual– a lot– for a lot of kids.

LAUREN KING: It is unusual.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: It is unusual.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Yes. Now, you were very fortunate.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes, I really was. I really was.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, I worked on– with my mother’s youngest brother. He was only 13 years older than I was.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, when I would be on the– they were on a farm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And I loved the farm. I loved to work on the farm and, uh, do those things, you know.

LAUREN KING: Was that, like, with animals and then crops and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Well–

LAUREN KING: –and things like that, or–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –with, uh, um, um, raising tomatoes and picking those–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –taking them to the cannery, you know.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, uh, there were other things– peas, beans, you know.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, you– they always raised enough that they gave them to the ca– you know, they sold them to the cannery, but then they had enough to put up, you know–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –and, uh, do that.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Learned to put up things in jars, you know, can them, and, uh–

LAUREN KING: And you– you took– I know you said earlier you– you liked to do that even as you grew up. And– and–and as an adult you enjoyed doing that sort of thing.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: And that carried with you.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. That’s very good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah. Yeah, I had a very pleasant, enjoyable, and loving connection with my grandparents. and all.

LAUREN KING: That’s very–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And even I had a great grandmother that I knew very well. Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Yeah.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Great grandmother Armstrong. She was an Armstrong.

LAUREN KING: Very–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That was on my mother’s side.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: My mother was the oldest on her side.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And my father was the youngest. And there was about– just about a half difference. He was a little bit older than what my mother was.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK. OK. OK. OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: He was from the Wilmington, Delaware, you know–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –area.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Go ahead.

LAUREN KING: No. I was gonna ask– I was gonna kind of bring the focus back to Carroll County just a little bit and say that, you know– would you say that this was a great place to– to– to– to– to– to be married and raise your family and sort of set your own roots?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think so.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I think it’s a great county.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Um. And yet we’re not too far from the cities that you get that value out of it.

LAUREN KING: That’s true.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But where you have to live and grow up and things, I think it’s a great count– county to grow up in.

LAUREN KING: That’s good. Yeah. I– I– I like it very much myself. It is a lovely area. Um.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Now you were from upper Pennsylvania here.

LAUREN KING: Right now I am from– I’m in Hanover now–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Hanover.

LAUREN KING: –but I did used to live in Carroll County.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Did you?

LAUREN KING: I did. Uh-huh.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: I wasn’t born and raised in Carroll County, but I lived in Carroll County for– for many years.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: OK.

LAUREN KING: So–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh-huh.

LAUREN KING: I–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: I also, um, like it very much. And if I was to ever leave Hanover–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes?

LAUREN KING: –I would probably like to come back to Carroll County.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: But that’s not in the plans.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That’s not in the books. That’s right. You take where you have your business or your–

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –what you do. Yeah.

LAUREN KING: Right. And where my son’s growing up and his friends and his– all his activities. So, yes. So we’ll probably stay in Hanover for a very long time. But–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes.

LAUREN KING: –if we were to ever leave it, I would probably like to come back here.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Definitely.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Definitely.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: Well, Janice, is there any piece of information you’d just like to have that you haven’t said already that you’d just like to know would be on tape? You know, any– any memories or– or thoughts of any kind or–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I don’t know that I have–

LAUREN KING: –advice for anyone moving in–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I enjoyed life very much in wherever I was. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the people.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, they were all kind to me.

LAUREN KING: I’m sure they were ’cause you’re a lovely person. It sounds like you really appreciated– are you OK? Do you want me to stop?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: No. I’m fine.

LAUREN KING: OK. OK. OK. ‘Cause I don’t want you to be uncomfortable.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I’m– I’m comfortable. I get sentimental.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s– that’s OK, you know. That’s good. It’s good you have such lovely memories of– of the–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: –people and places and–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: People were good.

LAUREN KING: Yes.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: They were understanding and helpful.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. As I’m sure you were to them as well.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Right. Right.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Okie doke.

LAUREN KING: Well, listen, I have thoroughly enjoyed talking to you again. I thank you so much–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: You’re quite welcome.

LAUREN KING: –for sharing your history with me.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: I enjoy– I– I enjoyed it.

LAUREN KING: Good.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, my husband went to Western Maryland–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: –or what– what it’s now called.

LAUREN KING: McDaniel.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: McDaniel.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm. But you’re right. It was Western Maryland. Yeah.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And I went elsewhere. I– I wasn’t from around here. I was from Western Pennsylvania.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And I went to Tennessee to college.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And, uh, it was– Tennessee was– the part of Tennessee I was very much– it was very much like Western Pennsylvania.

LAUREN KING: Oh, OK. So it was a familiar feel for you.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: It’s– it– the– the, uh– the people– were really outgoing– were very much the same. As you went west and that they got a little bit different. Not that they weren’t good, but they did differently.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And then you go west a little bit more in Tennessee.

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: The people were different in those different–

LAUREN KING: Mm-hm.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: But, um–

LAUREN KING: Sure.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Uh, Eastern Tennessee was just very much like Pittsburgh or anything else.

LAUREN KING: So maybe that was part of the charm that drew you to that area, to that school maybe. Possibly?

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: No. I don’t know. It was where there was some work.

LAUREN KING: OK.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: That’s where–

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s important too.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: And– And and I didn’t mind where I went because wherever I went I always met people I enjoyed. And they were good to me.

LAUREN KING: Right.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Vice versa.

LAUREN KING: Exactly. Exactly. Well, it sounds like you were a very open-minded, adventurous woman growing up and into your adulthood. So–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yeah.

LAUREN KING: –that offered you a lot of opportunity to–

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes, it did.

LAUREN KING: –to see and do a lot of things.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Yes, it does. Yes, it does.

LAUREN KING: Well, that’s very wonderful.

JANICE LEATHERWOOD: Mm-hm.

LAUREN KING: That’s wonderful.