Vince Tawney

Vince was born in 1963, in Pennsylvania. Although he was born in PA, he lived his whole life in Carroll County right off of Maryland Route 140.


VINCE TAWNEY: Vince Allan Tawney, and born in Hanover, Pennsylvania, January 30, 1963.

INTERVIEWER: And what brought you to Carroll County?

VINCE TAWNEY: It’s where my whole family lived.

INTERVIEWER: So shortly after you were born?

VINCE TAWNEY: Right after. I never lived in Pennsylvania at all.

INTERVIEWER: And do you remember what your neighborhood looked like when you were growing up in Carroll County?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. We lived on 140.

INTERVIEWER: Whereabouts?

VINCE TAWNEY: We always said we were right down from the Maryland State Police Barracks. But the house is still there.

INTERVIEWER: What was the address? Do you remember?

VINCE TAWNEY: Back then, we had a box number.


VINCE TAWNEY: And I can’t remember what the box number was. My sisters would know.

INTERVIEWER: And it was the box with the post office?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. Our mailbox was right on 140. I’m not mistaken– I would want to say, I think it was 1331 Baltimore Boulevard, after they got rid of the box numbers.


VINCE TAWNEY: But I’m not positive on that. That’s a long time ago.

INTERVIEWER: And the house is still there.


INTERVIEWER: Can you tell me about was a typical day like in Carroll County, when you were growing up?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, just fun. I guess it all depends on your neighbors that you have, and everybody in my neighborhood was good.

INTERVIEWER: Where’d you go to school?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, back then we had a whole bunch. I was probably in five or six different schools before I got to high school.

INTERVIEWER: [INAUDIBLE]. It’s doing its own thing.

And did you go to high school in Westminster?


INTERVIEWER: Westminster High?

VINCE TAWNEY: Westminster High.

INTERVIEWER: OK. What do you remember about your neighbors, where you were growing up, up there?

VINCE TAWNEY: Just good people. Just good people. And right where I lived at, nobody was related, nothing like down here.

INTERVIEWER: OK. We’re going to get to that in a second. They’re doing their bit first, and then I’m going to do my bit.

Do you remember what your father did?

VINCE TAWNEY: He was a milkman.

INTERVIEWER: He was a milkman. For what company, do you remember?


INTERVIEWER: Koontz. That’s great. And so he drove a little truck, and–

VINCE TAWNEY: Drove a little truck, house to house.

INTERVIEWER: House to house, wow. Do you remember your first job in Carroll County?


INTERVIEWER: What was it?

VINCE TAWNEY: Carried chickens.

INTERVIEWER: Can you tell me a little bit more about that? What does that mean, carried chickens?

VINCE TAWNEY: We would take chickens from one house, put them on big tractor trailers, and take them to another house. And that’s all we did, until they got bigger. And then the last place that we ever took them was from West Virginia. And then they would be put on a truck, and they went to Campbell’s Soup.

INTERVIEWER: Campbell’s Soup?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yep. All the chickens that we handled was all Campbell’s. Campbell’s owned all the chickens.

INTERVIEWER: And where was Campbell’s Soup?

VINCE TAWNEY: I have no idea. I have no idea. We just put them on tractor trailers, and they were gone.

INTERVIEWER: Oh my gosh. Were they alive or dead?

VINCE TAWNEY: All alive.

INTERVIEWER: All alive. And do you remember what you used to do for fun as a kid?

VINCE TAWNEY: I guess a whole bunch of things, but I played drums.

INTERVIEWER: You played drums.

VINCE TAWNEY: I play drums. I love music, still do. But I guess that was– my biggest obsession was playing drums, because I had plenty of drum sets.


VINCE TAWNEY: I still have them today.

INTERVIEWER: Did you play in a band?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yep, played in a band. Never really, really, really got it fully started– we had started, never finished it. We just played around.

INTERVIEWER: And when did you start playing drums? Do you remember how old you were when you first–

VINCE TAWNEY: Probably five or six, probably.

INTERVIEWER: Wow. And can you remember anything about where you went to school? Is it any different today, do you think, than when you went before? Do you think the school is very different? It’s pretty much the same buildings, right?

VINCE TAWNEY: No, because the first school that I ever went to, it was called East End School. And it’s right in downtown Westminster. And now it’s became Westminster Inn, the restaurant. Stuff like that. It’s other office buildings in it. But back then, you went to a school– like, I went to that school for two years. But that’s all the higher that school went. And then you went to another school, and then you went there for two years, and then you would go to another school for two years. And that’s actually how I went through school.

And my main middle school that I went to used to be Westminster High. Once they built Westminster High School, they didn’t close the old high school, they made it a middle school.

INTERVIEWER: Oh, I see. They just swapped them out. And do you remember, where did your family go to shop for groceries?

VINCE TAWNEY: The only one that I really– there’s two of them that I remember. One of them used to be called a co-op, and that was up in Westminster. And once 140 was built, I guess the very first store there was [INAUDIBLE] Pride. And other than that, I remember there’s two grocery stores, but–

INTERVIEWER: And they’re gone now.

VINCE TAWNEY: Both of them are still there, but they’ve all changed names. One of them’s a Food Line, and the other one’s Martin’s, I think, or Shoppers.

INTERVIEWER: Shoppers, OK. And Do you remember going into Westminster, what it was like? Has it changed much from what it was like when you were a kid?

VINCE TAWNEY: The town itself, no. Hasn’t really changed. Couple businesses that were in there, like your main stores had closed, because then 140 had growed up, and then there’s 140 Village, and stuff like that. But downtown Westminster really hasn’t changed at all.

INTERVIEWER: And when you were growing up, what was your favorite place to go in Carroll County?

VINCE TAWNEY: Probably Westminster Playground, because it was the only thing we had. When we were growing up, if we went to Westminster Playground, that was it.

INTERVIEWER: Where is that? Where is that located?

VINCE TAWNEY: I guess right there by City Hall. I mean, it’s still there.



INTERVIEWER: Did you get married in Carroll County?


INTERVIEWER: Yes? And where did you get married?

VINCE TAWNEY: Right here, right up on top of the hill.

INTERVIEWER: In the little church at the– what is it, Patapsco Methodist.


INTERVIEWER: Do you remember anything about your wedding day?

VINCE TAWNEY: Hot. It was hot. It was brutal, I mean just brutal hot. Because we were all– you can look at the wedding pictures, everybody was sweating. And it was hot.

INTERVIEWER: So it was in the summer?


INTERVIEWER: And do you remember– so did your family go to church up there, is that how you got married up there?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, Sandy did.

INTERVIEWER: Sandy did. OK. All right. What do you miss most about Carroll County, as it used to be?

VINCE TAWNEY: Probably really nothing. I mean, Carroll County hasn’t really changed that much. Population has changed, but everything that basically was then is still now.

INTERVIEWER: Pretty much the same. And if you were to describe what is the best thing about Carroll County to someone who’s never visited here, what would you say?

VINCE TAWNEY: The people.

INTERVIEWER: The people.

VINCE TAWNEY: The people in Carroll County have always been good. It’s never been– the county’s never ever been like city-lized, or anything like that. How you see it today is the way it pretty much always was. I mean, it’s a little bit more people here, but like I said, the county itself, it’s always taken care of itself, I guess the best way to put it.

INTERVIEWER: OK. Now we’re going to talk about your life in Patapsco. And so I want you to tell me what brought you to Patapsco.

VINCE TAWNEY: My aunt and my uncle, they moved here. And I was little, I was probably eight, nine, something like that. So the only reason I guess my parents brought us down here, to help them move in, or whatever, I don’t really remember. But that’s the first time I ever knew of Patapsco.

INTERVIEWER: And what were their names, and where did they live?

VINCE TAWNEY: They lived right up on top of the hill. And well, their last names were the Cooks. And to me they were just Aunt Dorothy and Uncle George.

INTERVIEWER: Up on Ridge Road?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yep, right up on Ridge Road. And that’s where they– they didn’t buy it, they just rented it.

INTERVIEWER: And so you started coming down here when you were eight. Somewhere in there. Can you remember your first memories of coming down here? What do you remember? What’s your most vivid memory about when you first started coming down here?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, I guess it would be my wife. I mean–

INTERVIEWER: Can you tell us about that?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, we met when–

INTERVIEWER: When you were eight and nine, or something like that?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. Well, she became friends with my cousin. And I guess that’s how I got to know her.

INTERVIEWER: And what’s your wife’s maiden name? What was her name?

VINCE TAWNEY: McCormick. Her last name was McCormick.

INTERVIEWER: First name?

VINCE TAWNEY: Sandy, first name’s Sandy. I mean, I guess when I first came down here, that would have to be I guess my only really memory that I have. I mean, I met her and the history just says itself. I guess I liked the town.

INTERVIEWER: Where did Sandy live?

VINCE TAWNEY: Up on Ridge Road, too. OK. She lived in a farm.

INTERVIEWER: All right. So how long was it after you and Sandy met at the age of eight and nine that you all got married? How old were you when you got married, is all we really are–

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, we dated on and off, and all that kind of stuff, how normal people do. When we got married, I was 17, she was 16.

INTERVIEWER: And then where did you live when you got married?

VINCE TAWNEY: The old Post Office, in Patapsco.

INTERVIEWER: Was a whistle stop.

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, the Post Office was right up from the whistle stop.

INTERVIEWER: Which building was that?

VINCE TAWNEY: Right beside the old that old building down there, where that’s an apartment at right now, right beside that church. You know where the old church is at?


VINCE TAWNEY: The next door. That was where the Post Office was at.

INTERVIEWER: So what’s now a Janice Davidson [INAUDIBLE].

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. And then they bought it and made an apartment out of it. Once they made it apartments– well, the Post Office moved down to the store. But that’s the first place I lived, right after we got married.

INTERVIEWER: And what was your first job? Was it the carrying chickens?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah, first job was carrying the chickens.

INTERVIEWER: OK, all right. Now tell me a little bit about Patapsco, and some of the things that you remember, because you have quite a history here. Anything you want to talk–

VINCE TAWNEY: Oh, it was just great. No, I mean–

INTERVIEWER: What was so great? What was great about it?

VINCE TAWNEY: The atmosphere, the train– I mean, the train running in when I first came around. And I remember you’d be up on the hill, if you hear the train, that was the biggest attraction. I mean, everybody– you would run to the top of the hill, just to see the train because it was fascinating. You never seen before, and then to see that– and I guess that was all the beginning of why I really, really like this place. I mean, it was in the country, and everybody knew everybody.

At that time I didn’t know everybody, but it was full of kids. And I’m eight or nine, and the whole town was filled with eight or nine-year-olds. And everybody got along. I mean, your biggest thing you did during the day was play Wiffle ball, or play football. Because everybody just had fun. And once the sun went down, everybody went home. And the next day, same thing. You’d just do the same thing.

And plus, you always went swimming in the summer. Well, of course you always went swimming in the summer because the stream was right there. Nobody would give you a hard time. I mean, you could go wherever you wanted and go swimming. And that’s what we did. So the whole time I was growing up down here, that’s what it was all about. It was just having fun with all the kids and swimming, and playing sports, doing your thing.

INTERVIEWER: Now tell me about– I think the first house you bought, can you tell me about that, which house that was?

VINCE TAWNEY: The first house I bought, Carlos Raver owned it. And it was a mess. I mean, it was just a total mess. Probably in a lot of people’s mind, should have been torn down. It that the fact that I wanted that house that bad, but it was the only thing that I could afford. And Carlos helped me out with that.

We went in, had a whole bunch of friends, and tore it apart. Redid it, made it livable, and lived in the house for 17 years, or 16, 17 years. And to the day I moved out, I was still remodeling it the day I left. I mean, I worked on the house all the time. Whatever I did, I would go back as I learned, and would redo it. And just continuously re-did the house. And then when I finally had it to where I thought it was right, and I was happy, it was family got too big, it was time to move on. And that’s why we moved.

INTERVIEWER: I think you’ve told me a story once about buying your first hammer. Can you tell me about that?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, I didn’t even own a hammer. I didn’t even own a hammer when I bought the house. I remember going, because I had to go up to an old lumber store up in Westminster. I bought my first hammer. And everything else that I had, we borrowed, because I didn’t have no money, either. So we had to– well, we did whatever we had to do. And we did it.

INTERVIEWER: But you weren’t particularly trained in the area of really the reconstruction, were you?

VINCE TAWNEY: No, didn’t know nothing. Didn’t know nothing about any of that. I was a painter. I was a painter, and that’s how I had gotten into the whole field of learning anything to do with construction. And then just one step led to another step, and still learning today.

INTERVIEWER: And now you’re very much into wood, right?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yep. Love wood, love framing. I just love the whole part of the building anything. You’re building it, I’m interested.

INTERVIEWER: So can you tell us a little bit about the renovation, and what all was involved, what you actually did?

VINCE TAWNEY: Everything.

INTERVIEWER: You built an addition. Let’s talk about.

VINCE TAWNEY: It had an addition on it. It kind of looked like a deck, so we tore all that off, dug a foundation, put up block walls and built a new addition. The old part of the house, actually I guess the only thing that we had left was the main steps. Didn’t really see no reason to move the steps.

INTERVIEWER: Were you talking about the 2847, or are you talking about this house?

VINCE TAWNEY: Talking about up there, or down there. The steps is the only thing that is original in that house, because I never moved them. Like I say, we never– just didn’t see no purpose to. And we moved the basement doors. Everything like that, we had moved, but the main steps that were going in, we liked it. I mean, that’s just how it was. And that’s just how the old houses down here were, and the steps are still there today.

INTERVIEWER: Did you leave the framing in place, or did you take the framing down?

VINCE TAWNEY: Only thing that stayed the same was the exterior walls. Exterior walls, they’re original. Never touched them. Tore everything off of them, tore everything off of it, rewired it, reinsulated it, replumbinged it, everything like that. The only thing that’s original is basically the steps.

INTERVIEWER: And then you decided to build another house?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yup. Like I say, family got bigger. We had to do something. So we come up here, and bought this property. Really, really didn’t plan on tearing this old house down, but once we had got into it– and like I say, we got to know more about woodworking, and what was left of the house we could use. And we really didn’t want to do that, but we didn’t have an option.

And this house was built out of logs. We didn’t have a start point to it. So then we just made a decision to take it down. And we’re still using the foundation of it. There’s actually right behind me, the main wall that’s behind me is still sitting on the original foundation. And the wall to my left, more than 3/4 of that wall is the original foundation. So I used what I could.

INTERVIEWER: Can you remember any of your most vivid memories of Patapsco, anything that really stands out in your mind, any incidents that happened that were somewhat unusual, or anything in particular that comes to mind?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, I was young, very young, but the flood– the flood devastated the down. I mean–

INTERVIEWER: In what way?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, there was two floods. There was two floods here, since I’ve been around. The first one, I really, really don’t have the members of it, because I wasn’t here, seeing all the pictures. But the second flood, the second flood I was here. And it wiped out the town, it wiped out the bridges. You couldn’t get in or out of here. I mean, your only way out was up past the junkyard. And that’s a long ways around, to get out that way. But that was the only way that you could get out.

INTERVIEWER: So what area– how far did the water come? I mean, up to what buildings did it–

VINCE TAWNEY: Oh, well, the whole whistle stop. The whistle stop had water in the first floor. I mean, the whole basement was underwater, and it got water in the first floor. As far as the other houses that were down there, I don’t think anybody really got damage on their first floor. But all the basements were flooded. And then downstream, downstream there was a house and a garage and stuff like that, that got totally wiped out. It did a lot to the town.

INTERVIEWER: How did people cope with that?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, everybody was family. And so everybody just helps out everybody else. And that’s one– I guess it’s–

INTERVIEWER: They sort of stay with other people.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. I mean, it’s the reason why I’m still here, because it’s so close knit of a town that people, if one person was in trouble, the whole town would help that person. It was kind of like in the old days of a barn raising. If you were building something, well, the whole neighborhood helped you build it. And that’s just the way it was. And like I said, I guess that’s why I’m still here. Because I don’t have any reason to move.

INTERVIEWER: And there was an old mill down here.


INTERVIEWER: Can you tell us about the old mill?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, the old mill. The old mill– of course, I never seen it run– but it was a nice house. Of course, they made it from a mill, and then people had lived in it.

INTERVIEWER: Do you know what kind of mill it was? Was it a flour mill?

VINCE TAWNEY: It’s a good question, because I’ve never really, really actually heard what it actually did. When you talk to people, everybody says, it was a mill. OK, but what was it? I don’t know. You ask some of the older people that’s around here, maybe they’ll know that. But whether or not it was, like I say, a flour mill or a whiskey mill, I really don’t know.

INTERVIEWER: And what happened to the mill?

VINCE TAWNEY: It had burnt. It caught fire. And actually, the fire didn’t destroy the house completely. I mean, it was pretty bad. It was burned up pretty bad. It could’ve been salvageable, but the house– well, the property had two houses to it. So when Carlos bought it, well, the one house was burned out, and the other one needed a lot of work.

Well, he just took the best of the two and picked one house, and remodeled it. And the other house just sat there, and over time since the fire, the windows were busted out of it. It was abandoned, and then it just got weather beaten, and then it got to the point where I guess it was getting dangerous for anybody to be around it, so they elected to just go ahead and tear it down.

INTERVIEWER: Was anyone in the house when it caught fire?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, she was in a nursing home. She was old, but–

INTERVIEWER: Do you remember her name?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah, I do. I can’t remember it right off hand.

INTERVIEWER: It wasn’t Elizabeth Shamer, was it?

VINCE TAWNEY: No, that don’t sound right.

INTERVIEWER: Was it a Shamer?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. Yeah. Well– Yeah, but I keep– there was another name to it, too, but I can’t remember it. I can’t remember it.

INTERVIEWER: Has Patapsco, the area changed much over the years, since you’ve lived here?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, town hasn’t. Town hasn’t changed at all.

INTERVIEWER: So who were the main families that have always lived here? Can you tell me their names, last names?

VINCE TAWNEY: The main families would be the Davidsons, and I guess the Shamers. They were the–

INTERVIEWER: And the Barretts?

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, like I say, you could keep on going and name. I mean, the Knights were here. The Knights were here, the Greens were here, the Davidsons. And the Shamers.

INTERVIEWER: The Greens, did you say?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah, they–

INTERVIEWER: I don’t know them.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah, they lived right down there. Because actually the Greens used to– they owned a store. So they were a big part of it. Like I say, that’s going back beyond me. So–

INTERVIEWER: I don’t see– there’s not many Greens left around here now, are they?

VINCE TAWNEY: Not that I know of. There’s no Greens down here at all. None at all. Every other, every name that I’ve mentioned, other than Greens, are still here.

INTERVIEWER: Now your wife, Sandy, her maiden name was McCormick. But her mother, was from here? Or was it her father that was from here?

VINCE TAWNEY: Her mother was from here.

INTERVIEWER: And what was her mother’s maiden name? Was she a Knight, or?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, she was a McCormick. She was a McCormick. Yeah.

INTERVIEWER: No, I mean her mother’s maiden name.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah, her maiden was McCormick.

INTERVIEWER: Oh, OK. So Sandy’s last name, what was Sandy’s maiden name, your wife?


INTERVIEWER: OK. We’re going to get this. Yeah Sandy’s mother wouldn’t have been a McCormick.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. Yeah, they were–

INTERVIEWER: A McCormick and a McCormick got married?

VINCE TAWNEY: No, they didn’t get married.


VINCE TAWNEY: They didn’t get married.

INTERVIEWER: OK. All right. OK, that’s fine. And, uh– I’m with you now. Can you remember any sort of interesting stories about anything happening down here, or anything about the wildlife down here that you might recall? Anything unusual?


INTERVIEWER: Somebody told us about a big snake that used to be in the area.

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, there’s always been snakes down here. As far as anything being big or huge, or anything like that, no. I don’t remember.

INTERVIEWER: Just the odd deer [INAUDIBLE].

VINCE TAWNEY: It would be a bobcat every now and then you would hear. But I’d personally never ever seen a bobcat. You would hear them, just up and down the railroad tracks. They were somewhere, but you never– I never seen one. But you would hear them. But that’s about it.

INTERVIEWER: That’s about it.


INTERVIEWER: So what was Christmas like around here? What did people do for Christmas?

VINCE TAWNEY: Probably pretty neat, because that was probably the one day where everybody kept to theirself. It was, I guess you could call it, that was a family day. And so you just pretty much stayed in your house. Now, Christmas Eve, Christmas Eve would be a little different. Because that was, like I said, a lot of the people down here celebrated Christmas on Christmas Eve. And that would be the day when everybody would go house to house, and stuff like that. But then Christmas Day, no, it was kind of left alone. You were–

INTERVIEWER: Can you tell me about the going to house to house? What was that like? I mean, what did people do?

VINCE TAWNEY: You would just– you could go around, and every house you went to, somebody would either give you a beer, or give you a shot, or something. And that’s just how they did it. Because everybody was, like I say, everybody was related somehow to the other. So you didn’t go there to spend all day. You just went in there, and I guess you’d wish each other you a Merry Christmas, and, they’d give you a beer, or a shot, and you’d go to the next house.

INTERVIEWER: Is that still going on now?

VINCE TAWNEY: No. No, you don’t see that too much no more. You really don’t. Now, if anything, you might have a party at one place, and so everybody might just gather. Like my house might be picked next year. And if it is, well, that’s good. And then you’ll have your friends over, and actually you’ll exchange your gifts that night. And then Christmas Day is basically the same. That’s the family day. Done. So you won’t see nobody.

INTERVIEWER: What about like Halloween, or anything like that? Do kids go trick or treating around here, or not?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. It kind of got out of hand. It got out of hand, and that’s why trick or treating’s not as big as what it once was. Because we would– well, let’s say it used to be anybody that come to your house, you knew. Then it got out of hand because it was so easy for people to come here and just park. They would park their car along the road, and just unload a whole truckload of kids, and go house to house, just to get your candy. And when all that happened, or when all that started to happen, and that’s when you started seeing people just start turning out their porch lights, because it just got out of hand. Because you pretty much knew who was going to come to your house. And every year it got bigger, and it got bigger by people that you didn’t even know. So then that’s pretty much put an end to all that.

INTERVIEWER: So can you tell me the names of your children? And I understand you have a grandchild.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yep. I got three boys, Alan, Danny, and Darrell. Good boys. And Alan recently got married, and now I’m a grandfather.

INTERVIEWER: What’s the big grandbaby’s name?




INTERVIEWER: A little girl?

VINCE TAWNEY: A little girl. Cameron– that’s a shame, I can’t remember her middle name. But that’s Cameron, totally. And next week, she’ll be one year old.

INTERVIEWER: Oh. That’s great.


INTERVIEWER: So what’s her birth date? It’s May something.

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. Well, whatever next Saturday’s date is.

INTERVIEWER: OK. So 20-something.


INTERVIEWER: All right, good. And if you were to have one special memory or anything in particular but maybe stands out that you really like to relate to people, what would that be about Patapsco? Or anything you’d really like to say in particular about it.

VINCE TAWNEY: Well, just living here. And in the earlier days, we would all gather around in the middle of the road, and you would always go down that way. Actually, we would go to Brian Davis’ house. And we didn’t have a whole bunch of traffic.

And you could go down there, and we would sit on his banister and drink beer, have fun, do whatever we wanted to do. And every car that rode by, you knew. So they would either pull over and have a beer with you and go on, or they might pull off to the side and then all right, well, they would join the party. And we didn’t do it all the time, but we did do that or Friday or a Saturday night. You don’t go nowhere else and do that.

But that’s just the way it was down here. Nobody bothered you, because everybody was related. And we didn’t bother nobody, either. And by the time the end of the night was over, half the people that were in town were at the party. Now that, that’s priceless. Like I say, you can’t do that no more. I don’t even know where you could even go to even think about going that.

INTERVIEWER: So do you ever plan on leaving Patapsco, moving someplace else?

VINCE TAWNEY: Yeah. Yeah, we had– I’ve always– I love the ocean. I guess my ultimate goal is one day to live beside the ocean. But if I was ever to sell this house anytime soon, I wouldn’t leave. I wouldn’t leave Carroll County, I wouldn’t leave Patapsco. I might try to buy some property that’s right up on the hills, or something like that, but to leave the immediate area? No, not right away. No. I can’t see that. We’ll be here a long time.